Black Elvis/Lost in Space

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Kool Keith, aka Black Elvis, Dr. Octagon, Poppa Large, Dr. Dooom, and about a dozen personae, got his start with the Bronx-based Ultramagnetic MC's in the mid-1980s. Although revered, their recordings made little commercial impact and the group disbanded. Since then Keith has enigmatically swung from project to project, maintaining a deliberately inscrutable cloak of aliases and alter egos. The result is a catalog that is high in concept, broad in scope, and completely, utterly wacky: it's hip-hop as Darius James writes novels and Terry Gilliam makes films. Only a few other artists--Definition of Sound and Divine Styler most notably--have ever come close to achieving similar results. Judging from the results of this recording, one of Keith's more straight-ahead, more rappers should try. On Lost, Keith's rhymes are unpredictable, obscure, and hilarious. On "Static," he somehow rhymes Benjamins with basketball star Scottie Pippen, (ex-NFL quarterback Mark) Rypien, and 1960s boxing champ Sonny Liston; elsewhere he namechecks 1970s journeymen basketballers Darnell Hillman and Slick Watts. He's critical of hip-hop pretension on many tracks, most notably "I Need a Release Date." Although the recording features a solid, contemporary bounce, Keith is completely old school--it's his whimsical words and unique delivery that matter most. --Martin Johnson

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Black Elvis/Lost in Space

Black Elvis/Lost in Space
Black Elvis/Lost in Space
Average customer rating: 4 out of 5 stars
  • Hip-Hop in Space
  • Kruel Keith: A true master of the game
  • somewhat displease
  • Rockets on the Battlefield!
  • Late Styles: Could There Be Original Black Elvises?
Black Elvis/Lost in Space
Kool Keith
Manufacturer: Ruffhouse
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B00000JWG7
Release Date: 1999-08-10

Tracks:

  1. Intro
  2. Lost In Space
  3. Rockets On The Battlefield
  4. Livin' Astro
  5. Supergalactic Lover
  6. Master Of The Game
  7. I'm Seein' Robots
  8. Static
  9. Intro
  10. Black Elvis
  11. Maxi Curls
  12. Keith Turbo
  13. Fine Girls
  14. The Girls Don't Like The Job
  15. Clifton
  16. All The Time
  17. I Don't Play

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Kool Keith, aka Black Elvis, Dr. Octagon, Poppa Large, Dr. Dooom, and about a dozen personae, got his start with the Bronx-based Ultramagnetic MC's in the mid-1980s. Although revered, their recordings made little commercial impact and the group disbanded. Since then Keith has enigmatically swung from project to project, maintaining a deliberately inscrutable cloak of aliases and alter egos. The result is a catalog that is high in concept, broad in scope, and completely, utterly wacky: it's hip-hop as Darius James writes novels and Terry Gilliam makes films. Only a few other artists--Definition of Sound and Divine Styler most notably--have ever come close to achieving similar results. Judging from the results of this recording, one of Keith's more straight-ahead, more rappers should try. On Lost, Keith's rhymes are unpredictable, obscure, and hilarious. On "Static," he somehow rhymes Benjamins with basketball star Scottie Pippen, (ex-NFL quarterback Mark) Rypien, and 1960s boxing champ Sonny Liston; elsewhere he namechecks 1970s journeymen basketballers Darnell Hillman and Slick Watts. He's critical of hip-hop pretension on many tracks, most notably "I Need a Release Date." Although the recording features a solid, contemporary bounce, Keith is completely old school--it's his whimsical words and unique delivery that matter most. --Martin Johnson

Customer Reviews:

4 out of 5 stars Hip-Hop in Space.......2005-02-16

Everyone loves space. We have movies, books, and tv shows that have been hugely successful as a result of their science fiction/space themes. So when a talented hip hop artist takes the discontent he feels toward the music industry and others and places it in a science fiction/futuristic setting, the results are highly enjoyable. I've heard that for this album Keith donned the "Elvis" personna for the obvious reason that the King was heavily influenced by and/or exploited black music, and for the not-so-obvious reason that Elvis is purported to not be dead but is lost in space. Wow.

For me, standouts include Lost in Space for its sultry backing vocals and catchy refrain; Livin' Astro is a great way to say "I'm a pimp" while adding a fresh take; Black Elvis and the upbeat Maxi Curls - two songs that I can listen to over and over again.

The only drawback for me is the lack of beats on this album. Intentional or not, this is not booty-shaking music, for the most part. There almost seems to be an underlying beat from song to song. Exceptions include the funny and funky Supergalactic Lover and the stellar Livin' Astro.

I think what helps the album feel so fresh is that it "pretends" to be in the future, while using old-style beats and effects. The sound is definitely unique, however, and will appeal to fans of Outkast or Eric B and Rakim alike. While it all sounds familiar, it also sounds alien. If that's what Keith was after, he accomplished his mission.

5 out of 5 stars Kruel Keith: A true master of the game.......2005-01-09

Keith, admist whatever else he calls himself, and the man with a concept behind almost every album, incorporates two concepts into this 1999 release: 'Black Elvis' and 'Lost In Space.' While the 'space' concept was nothing unfamiliar to him, the 'Black Elvis' moniker was, yet he embraces it effortlessly. Despite the two concepts at play here, this seems like Keith is completely free to talk about whatever he wants. He covers criticising of unoriginal emcees often, but usually in an abstract way. You get much of his esoteric humor, references to basketball players and other celebrities, and then many songs dealing with ladies as always.
This album actually has moments where you get the non-conforming Keith veering dangerously close to commercial territory on some spots. Tracks like (the female R&B-sung chorus in)"All The Time," "Master Of The Game,"(traditional West Coast/down South flavor) and possibly "Supergalactic Lover" sound unusually close to stuff you hear often on the radio. At times, Keith waters down his lyrics on these three, but he still brings enough entertainment and energy on all three to keep the momentum of the album moving. Actually, this is the most consistent, smoothest-flowing album that I've listened to in a LONG time! A big reason why I gave it five stars.

The first four songs are really appealing. The intro is funny and has a slick, short verse by Keith. His clever, abstract, unique, and odd wordplay kicks off in "Lost In Space," which has a weird chorus, but one you would expect if you know Keith. It has become commonplace for me to hear Keith say the weirdiest things in his songs, it no longer bugs me anymore, maybe why I embraced this album so easily! "Rockets On The Battlefield" is a BANGER, and "Livin' Astro" is fun and funky, where he references Lionel Ritchie, Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Elton John, and many others. Later on we have "I'm Seeing Robots,"(dedicated to the one-dimensional, stuck-up, high-maintainance women with fake assets) which grew on me very quickly. This song is so funny, so true! Right after is the collab with Sadat X on "Static." That's right: Sadat from Brand Nubian. Sadat and Keith have like nothing in common except that they both possess higher-pitched, unique voices. "Static" is not as mesmorizing and funky as it is a successful collaboration between two extremely different MC's.
Further in, we have "Maxi Curls" which displays some braggodocio and Keith roasting copycat rappers at his finest. "Keith Turbo" is the only track I still can't get into, it's almost too boring. Next is "Fine Girls," actually just about one girl, and it suprisingly has some nice jazz incorporated. Good to hear Keith using a little jazz in his work! "The Girls Don't Like The Job" lives up to the hype as it is one of the standouts here, where Keith plays a high-rolling business man and even takes jabs at materialistic Americans! "Clifton" is a solid collab with Motion Man and some other cat, here named 'Noggin' Nodders from Oakland,' and has an longer-than-usual verse from Keith and he calls himself 'Keith Telavazquez,' the latest in Kool Keith monikers. "I Don't Play" falls just below classic, but is a boomin' way to top it all off. A very good song. The brightest standouts off this cd are: "Rockets On The Battlefield," "Livin' Astro," "I'm Seeing Robots, "Static," "Maxi Curls," and "Girls Don't Like The Job." Both the tracks, "Lost In Space," and "Black Elvis" are quite good in case you were wondering.

The few complaints I have deal mainly with the choruses and beats. The beats are mostly solid, some even excellent, but I guess don't match up with Automater or Kutmasta Kurt beats like we're used to hearing Keith rhyme over. That's fine though, Keith does them himself, and even a bad Kool Keith beat is a good one for most other artists. I think we tend to forget how priveledged Keith has been to work with top-notch producers in the past. Many of the beats do convey that 'spacey'-type feel. The choruses are mostly simple, but not a huge eyesore. The choruses range from annoying, to irrelevant, to conventional("Master Of The Game"). Skip the awkward ones though, Keith's specialty is awkward choruses. It would have been nice if he would have changed up the verse-chorus structure a little, but the album still comes out pretty fresh.
Overall, this Kool Keith album remains consistent and entertaining throughout, and is easily one of his most-accessible and lovable works. He doesn't even swear but like two minor curses, and the only strong cursing comes in "Clifton," but by Motion Man and another guy, not Keith. He even left out the perverted humor, and his songs dealing with women are actually done in a mature, sometimes even romantic way! I was unsure going into this album what I was going to get, based on the high reverence of his earlier albums, and I ended up rewarded! It's amazing how fresh Keith sounds even though his career started in the mid-80's with the Ultramagnetic MC's. Hell, Keith still sounds fresh on his latest albums. He never ages! If you have other Kool Keith albums, make sure you add this one, and if you are unfamiliar with Keith, this is THE recommended place to start...

3 out of 5 stars somewhat displease.......2004-11-04

The intro? Fantastic.
What I love about Kool Keith is that much of his antics, themes, and rhymes are very tongue-in-cheek. That can be heard here as well. The problem here is that he strayed dangerously close to the same conventional styles that he speaks out against.
A Vocoder? While vintage as it is, Master of the Game was a little too unorginal for me to tolerate. Granted I hold Keith to standards far higher than I would for most other artists only because I've heard the sheer genius. That being said, some of the engineering was a little bleak, plus his verse chorus format was a bit too redundant. It reminded me of old Cyprus Hill where you could use lyrics from one track on another and never miss a beat.
Now that's not saying that Keith doesn't have the Koolest flow or cadence that I've ever heard. There are at least 5 tracks on this album for which I would say anyone should make the purchase. No one rhymes like Keith. It's his erratic and clever schemes that have had me hooked since Octogonecologyst.
Three stars means there are more tracks that I skip than tracks that I love, but the ones that I love convince me that Keith hasn't lost a thing.

5 out of 5 stars Rockets on the Battlefield!.......2004-10-03

This album is great, really I could put this in at any time and bump the he** out of it. Lyrically and flow-wise I think this is posibly Keith's greatest work. The beats are also spaced out and funky. They had to grow on me at first, but in short time I felt them completely. I think they perfectly compliment Keith's insane steelos on this record. I also have to say some people need to shut up and stop comparing every Kool Keith record to Dr. Octagon and stop bringing up Automator when ever the beats he rhymes over are mentioned. This kind of whining has surpassed the levels of extreme cliche at this point. Personally, if I had to choose one to keep between Black Elvis and Dr. Octogon, I may actually go for the funkier Black Elvis.

4 out of 5 stars Late Styles: Could There Be Original Black Elvises?.......2004-02-08

Keith Thornton made quite the "subcultural" splash in the late 90s with his *Dr. Octagon* record, mixed by Dan the Automator and featuring one of the most "post-historical" personae in the history of arts and letters; but this record, recorded under his original moniker "Kool Keith" with Kut Masta Kurt at the helm, is really the one to give any questions still swirling around Keith's earlier career with the Ultramagnetic MCs some substance. Is this really the rhetorical master of the US present? We lack the conditions of assessment under which such a question would even make sense, such that the "artistry" of Kool Keith is *espied* rather than even felt: as other reviewers here suggest, the cultural references on this material (released amidst a flurry of faux-fabulous "hardcore" rap and a much-publicized dispute with Sony records) are oblique to the point of obscurity.

At the time of its release, the major question about this record was why Keith was wearing a rubber Elvis wig (to be duplicated on the tour) and although to my knowledge this question has never been answered by the rather knowledgeable fans of "Blue Flowers", it is perhaps not ours to shift its valences and the "green" album may remain a mystery as regards its authorial intention (i.e., exactly what this was supposed to do besides "blow up"). But hey, since this is usually hard to buy in stores perhaps it is not too much beside the point to mention that the original Black Elvis is here taken to have had not only an extremely questionable hairstyle but also Marilyn Monroe on his back: and maybe he did, too, in some fairly rarefied sense.

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