When Forever Comes Crashing

1. My Unsaid Everything

2. High Cost of Playing God

3. In Harm's Way

4. Conduit

5. Lowest Common Denominator

6. Towing Jehovah

7. When Forever Comes Crashing

8. Ten Cents

9. Year of the Swine

10. Letterbomb

11. Love as Arson

Tracks:

My Unsaid Everything
The High Cost of Playing God
In Harms Way
Conduit
The Lowest Common Denominator
Towing Jehovah
When Forever Comes Crashing
Ten Cents
Year of the Swine
Letterbomb
Love As Arson
Bitter And Then Some

Customer Reviews:

metal to the max.......2006-01-20

One of the qunitessential metal albums of all times. If youve come here you most likey already know about Converge, and you've probably heard Jane Doe and You Fail Me and think they are horrific slabs of perfect death metal thrash meets hardcore in a pit match. If you agree then you rock. Basically Converge has been my favorite metal band hands down since they released Petitioning the Empty Sky. The Halo in a Haystack (or Caring and Killing) was great but was gently riding the lines between hardcore from that time and metal circa the height of Slayer. Petitioning the Empty Sky found the band growing comfortable with their death metal sounds and one upped Slayer with both speed and technical chops. When Forever Comes Crashing arrived, it was literally the birth of a new kind of metal. They took their styles and formed them into a huge wrecking ball of death metal, hardcore, emo (the original screamy kind) industrial and thrash and took the metal world by storm. No longer much of a hardcore band (other than values, oh and You Fail Me revisits some of their hardcore punk musical styles) this cd just shreds. It takes paint of the walls. It sonically removes earwax buildup in your ears, and if you sit too close to the speakers at high volume, it may make you poop your pants. Tempo changes that are just not human (see The Dillinger Escape Plan for a band that found lots of inspiration in Converge) lead into utter controlled (barely) chaos and then locks in to a most crushing stomping riff. All the while every band member hold on to the reigns and never letting go while Jake Bannon howls the most unearthly screams this side of Hell. He must have a gifted voice box or he gets laryngitis every few weeks. I just cant believe a person can make those sounds and not be hurt by them. On top of all this sonic death and mayhem comes some of the most poetic lyrics you will ever hear in a metal song. From the start, Jake has written great lyrics, lots of talk of angels falling, love crushing you, no hope, no light to be found. All very richly written and sure to make many a an angsty teen feel at home. If you need a preview, check out "Conduit", "My Unsaid Everything" or "Year of the Swine" Though you'd be hard pressed to find a bad song (Not including their emo attempt "Ten Cents" which actually has really nice guitar work reminiscent of their old stuff, but Bannons voice only works good like that when he balances it out with the vocal cord shred that he is so good at.) And if you are new to all of this Converge business, do yourself a flavor and please pick up Jane Doe and Petitioning the Empty Sky and You Fail Me and while youre at it, get their first release Caring and Killing. They even have a few split EPs with other bands where they completely shred, and look for a cover of Black Sabbaths "Snowblind" on Hydrahead Records.....I hope you enjoy...

A Door Opens.......2005-11-13

One of the great things about Converge is that they bring together all the elements of hardcore over the past twenty-five years into one distinct sound. If you listen close enough, you can hear the past, present, and possibly the future of hardcore in most of their recordings.
The golden age of hardcore (`80 - `85) is represented at various places, usually only a section of a song or the guitar sound. Many consider the crossover/ thrash scene (`85 - `90) to be the dominating sound and it certainly does play a large role in their earlier records. Underground grindcore/ death metal (`90 - `94) is also present, but only appears at the peak of their songs. Finally, there is also the post-hardcore sound of the `90's which emphasized eclectic experimentation which really comes through on "When Forever Comes Crashing."

It almost seems like a tradition for Converge to coming out swinging on the first track (until "You Fail Me" came along), which is exactly what they do here. "The Unsaid Everything" comes at you like an army of tanks with all their artillery blazing and the onslaught doesn't let up until the beginning of "In Harms Way," which turns from a dark, pretty song into a horrifying, warped industrial style noisefest.
"Conduit" once again brings together all facets of hardcore and is regarded as one of Converge's finest pieces by many. One of their first attempts at Godflesh influenced sludge metal follows and you can understand why they kept playing with the style by the results they achieved. Then, they release some the most unconventional, yet effective bombs this arsenal of an album has, "Towing Jehovah" and the title track.
Their next experiment with a pure emo sound comes along which turned out to be a sound they wisely wouldn't use again. From there on the album quickly redeems itself with hellish abandon that could only come from Converge.

"When Forever Comes Crashing" has multiple personalities that don't really have a cohesive flow throughout the album. However, they would open the door for more experimentation in their sound which would pay off big time on their next full length album. Also, they would learn how to put all together all their new found styles into a perfect flow over the course of the album. Converge took a risk on this album that paid off tenfold and would end up breathing new life into a genre many had dismissed many years ago.

converge seem like noise . . ........2005-10-24

If I were to have bought this record when it was released in '98 I would have dismissed it as utter shrieking garbage. Of course, back then I thought Pantera and Slayer were the only two effective extreme metal bands. This is the third record that I purchased of from this eclectic act and I was a little hesistant, but I was floored by Jane Doe and You Fail Me so I was willing to take the risk. With excellent career acts, (aka: bands that record more than one masterpiece in their career) I have theorized that the earlier you go in a band's career the more basic and homogenized their sound is. This, their second album is a totally refreshing piece of musical genius.
After purschasing what I thought up until this point was the greatest hardcore record ever, Vision of Disorder's "Imprint" I have been searching for years to find a band which encapsulates that brilliance with every record.
When Forever Comes Crashing is that record. Eclectic, surprising, twisting, and contorted sounds come out of two guitars, bass, and drums and meld in to this sinister mix which forces me to listen. It takes a while to really appreciate the genius of such diverse musical elements all intermingled into one song, but when it does I can honestly say this is the best extreme metal record I own. All these songs would have worked great as insturmentals, though Bannon's shrieks (which I can't follow, even with the lyric sheet) do add a sense of urgency which overlays this record perfectly.

It's Converge, What Else Needs To Be Said?.......2005-05-23

Review by Mike Watson:

The long awaited Converge reissues have FINALLY surfaced, and Converge fanatics nation, and even worldwide are rejoicing as there is even more need to own Converge merchandise. The newly re-done CDs have been given new life through the mastering genius of Godcity Studios and the brilliant art-work of frontman Jacob Bannon. The initial records of both albums, although ground breaking and amazing albums, were both fairly poorly recorded and mastered leaving fans with an unquenched thirst for the clear quality of the music.

Converge has quenched that thirst and more with the newly re-released albums. Both albums have been given complete new life and sound astonishing compared to their original releases. The sound quality on the re-issues is leaps and bounds beyond the original pressings, making the albums far more enjoyable and easily listenable. The most noticeable difference is on Petitioning the Empty Sky. Petitioning was originally recorded fairly empty and powerless, the re-issue however blows the listener away, re-mastered in a way that things in-audible on the original release are now made very apparent.

The Converge re-issues are an absolute must have for any Converge fan.

Forever has finally crashed and it's here to kick your ass!.......2005-03-24

To the Converge enthusiast, this CD is a godsend. I am a monstrous Converge fan, and in my opinion, their weakest album has always been When Forever Comes Crashing. The frustrating thing about WFCC is that you can tell the songs are good (especially when they play them live), but the recording quality SUCKS on the original CD. In fact, the demos released on Unloved and Weeded Out from WFCC are far better than the corresponding studio recordings.

So let me explain to you why this CD is worth buying even if you already own the original WFCC. These songs were re-mastered VERY well- they're much crunchier and more aggressive. The drums and bass are more pounding and ferocious, while the guitars still sound like they could flay the flesh from your body. I have been listening to this CD pretty much non-stop for the last 24 hours since I bought it, and I really feel like Converge has given us a chance to hear this music the way it SHOULD have been captured the first time. These are some of Converge's most aggressive and creative songs, and they finally sound GOOD.

In addition, all of the artwork is brand new (pages and pages of it), and created by Aaron Turner of Isis. Although I prefer the original interior artwork of the skulls and gold embossed ink, the slipcover is just bad-ass.

Bonus song as well- the demo version of "bitter and then some" from Jane Doe. it's good stuff. Best song on the album- "Towing Jehovah". Holy crap is that one good.

Bottom line- Converge fans can't pass this up. And the CD is finally a good jumping on point for new Converge fans as well.

Average customer rating:

One of Converge's best releases.
my two cents.
A little lagging but still ah so sweet
Floor punching madness
Heavy metal history......

When Forever Comes Crashing
Converge
Manufacturer: Equal Vision Records
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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Petitioning the Empty Sky
Unloved & Weeded Out
You Fail Me

ASIN: B000006HWK
Release Date: 1998-04-14

Tracks:

My Unseld Everything
The High Cost Of Playing God
Harms Way
Conduit
The Lowest Common Denominator
Towing Jehovah
When Forever Comes Crashing
Ten Cents
Year Of The Swine
Letterbomb
Love As Arson

Customer Reviews:

One of Converge's best releases........2006-04-16

It never ceases to amaze me how I could compare the best of today's aggressive music to stuff that Converge released in the 90's and still be unimpressed with what we have today. It seems like everything Kurt Ballou touched became a masterpiece. "When Forever Comes Crashing Is No Exception".

WFCC was one of the few converge albums that had the fans split on whether or not they like it. Many fans thought that the production of the album was sloppy and that the overall quality was sub-par compared to the band's previous hit, "Petitioning The Empty Sky".
However, the consensus seemed to be that Converge had pulled off another great release with WFCC. The songs were fast and hard like always, but still experimental enough to keep it fresh. Converge had done a good job of meeting if not exceeding the expectations that fans had after PTES.

Converge finally had the sense to re-release both albums, along with new artwork and a supposedly remastered tracklisting, along with a few bonus tracks with both.

WFCC re-release isn't quite what you'd expect in the improvement of quality department. While I can go back and listen to the old copy seeing the slight improvements in clarity...that still doesn't fix the recurring problems such as lack of bass and occasional unbalancing of the instruments. I should also add the fact that the bonus tracks are a bit lacking when compared to the surplus of live tracks we got on the PTES re-release. Sure, a demo version of Bitter and Then Some is a nice bonus, but I'm not sure it's enough to warrant a second purchase of this album.

So now to the actual song reviews.

01-My Unsaid Everything-As with most of their releases, Converge comes in with a bang. This is easilly one of the best songs on the album. The tempo changes really show a progression from earlier stuff. The drumwork on here is also very nice.

02-The High Cost of Playing God-This song is favorite to a lot of fans. It starts out very hardcore esque and suddenly picks up speed to create a really aggressive and chaotic song. This is definately one of my favorite songs by the band.

03-In Harms Way-Obviously more experimental. I suspect Bannon had a hand in writing the music for this because Kurt usually writes the hard stuff. The real treat for this song is torwards the end when the tempo starts speeding up and it turns into a mosh fest.

04-Conduit-Easilly in the top 5 best converge songs of them all. If you go to a show and they don't play this then you might want to check and make sure it was converge.

05-The lowest Common Denominator-A highly experimental song by Converge. Most fans either love or hate it.

06-Bitter and Then Some demo-This song came out in 2001 with Jane Doe and I considered it to be one of the best songs on the album. It's nice to hear a demo.

07-Letterbomb-I really enjoy this song a lot. It's got great drum and bass work. I would say it's one of the better songs on this cd as far as production goes.

08-Love As Arson-What can I say? Fast as hell and it doesn't let you go. This song rocks. Alot.

09-Ten Commandments-This is a slow, almost jazzy song. I personally love it but a lot of fans will differ.

10-Towing Jehovah-It's more of a metal song but that's surely not a bad thing. Great guitar work

11-When Forever Comes Crashing-This may just be my favorite song on the album. I LOVE the guitar in the first seconds of this song. It's just so capivating. It sort of slows down in the middle and then all hell breaks loose.

12-Year of The Swine-It's slightly above average for a converge song. Not a standout but certainly not an under achiever.

The more I looke back at this album the more I've come to love it.
IMO it's much better than PTES. I'm a firm believer in the fact that Converge was at their peak when Jane Doe came out. So that would make this album very high up there considering it was released just 3 years before.

If your just getting into Converge, this would be a good bet if you can stand the slight lack in quality. For me this one ranks up there with Jane Doe and You Fail Me. Every song here is great.
Personally I would rather they have re-recorded this album but given their strict touring schedule and the fact that the fans are expecting a new album, I don't blame em.

my two cents........2004-09-10

this album is a great work in the catalog of a great band. the material found on this album is of wonderful quality, despite the lackluster production/advice of one Steve Austin, wankster, of Today is the Day fame. The mix on this album is horrible. It is mixed like a death metal album. All you can hear is the kick drum and bass. If one applies a graphic eq to the tracks, you can rid it of some of the nasty low end frequencies that are present and actually get on with the guitars, vocals and the rest of the drums. I would be filled with great amounts of joy if the band would re-mix/re-record this album, as well as their songs from the split with agoraphobic nosebleed. in the meantime, buy this anyways. it rocks.

A little lagging but still ah so sweet.......2004-06-17

This cd has my favorite converge song ever, My Unsaid Everything. So what am I to say that is contrary to this cd, though it kinda lags at times and seems a little too long it is still a pretty good album. I lost it so I can't really get way too current on it, but it seems to be the transitional piece for Converge, you know the kinda record where they are inbewteen thier new and old sound. There are two or three misses on this cd though it has the delightfully smooth Ten Cents which doesn't even seem to odd for Converge to record despite the complete lack of choas and mayhem on the track. I do like this cd a whole lot, cheers!

Floor punching madness.......2003-11-26

When I turned on the first track of this album, I smiled ear to ear and started floor punching; the pounding, bass-heavy production shows through as soon as the first song starts playing, and the moods contained in the songs on the album range from wall breaking anger to crying sadness. Definitely a bad mood record; the effects on the vocals add a slightly terrifying element to the songs as well, especially on "The Lowest Common Denominator." This album is a step below Jane Doe, but a step above Petitioning The Empty Sky. Anyone who doesn't like this album is afraid they'll get punched in the face when they play "Conduit" live. As with most Converge records, the more I listen to When Forever Comes Crashing, the more I enjoy it. I definitely recommend this record for those who like to scream along with the lyrics or punch walls while listening to music.

Heavy metal history.............2003-07-24

This is one of the best hardcore albums period. The range of emotions that these guys throw down on this record leave you breathless. Pick up this record NOW.

"Limited Edition CD & DVD" Gutter Phenomenon [Explicit Content] + 30 minutes with Every Time I Die cut from the upcoming "Shit Happens" full length DVD release shot in 2005 / 2006

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"Limited Edition CD & DVD" Gutter Phenomenon [Explicit Content] + 30 minutes with Every Time I Die cut from the upcoming "Shit Happens" full length DVD release shot in 2005 / 2006
Every Time I Die
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Binding: Audio CD
ASIN: B000JN7T3Y

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