The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion

The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion

The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion

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Stone psychedelic freaks Robin Williamson and Mike Heron were two talented multi-instrumentalists who were eventually joined in the Incredible String Band by their earth-goddess lovers, Licorice and Rose. They tapped into the British Isles' centuries-old traditions of myths and folklore, updating the ancient sounds with inspired, multi-layered recordings and a modern twist that helped you envision fair maidens riding unicorns through green and fertile fields while simultaneously advocating better living through chemistry. Hell, the title alone of this, their second album, is more psychedelic than anything the Jefferson Airplane ever did. --Jim Derogatis

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The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • If you let the pigs decide it, they will put you in the sty
  • Their Most Famous, but not their best. I still love it!
  • "I'm not the kind to complain.."
  • ONE OF 'THE' GROUNDBREAKING RECORDINGS OF THE 1960s
  • Groundbreaking Album From Incredible String Band
 The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
The Incredible String Band
Manufacturer: Wea/Warner
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B000026G3D
Release Date: 2004-02-23

Tracks:

  1. Chinese White
  2. No Sleep Blues
  3. Painting Box
  4. Mad Hatter's Song
  5. Little Cloud
  6. Eyes of Fate
  7. Blues for the Muse
  8. Hedgehog's Song
  9. First Girl I Loved
  10. You Know What You Could Be
  11. My Name Is Death
  12. Gently Tender
  13. Way Back in the 1960s

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Stone psychedelic freaks Robin Williamson and Mike Heron were two talented multi-instrumentalists who were eventually joined in the Incredible String Band by their earth-goddess lovers, Licorice and Rose. They tapped into the British Isles' centuries-old traditions of myths and folklore, updating the ancient sounds with inspired, multi-layered recordings and a modern twist that helped you envision fair maidens riding unicorns through green and fertile fields while simultaneously advocating better living through chemistry. Hell, the title alone of this, their second album, is more psychedelic than anything the Jefferson Airplane ever did. --Jim Derogatis

Album Description

Inside, 5000 Spirits is full of whimsical delights. It was produced by Robin Williamson and Mike Heron once they had returned from travels. Robin himself had managed to pick up a variety of different instruments in Morocco and they all seem to get in there somewhere. Clive Palmer who had started the String Band with Robin had gone off to Afghanistan and did not rejoin the others. 5000 Spirits was quite unlike anything else that was around at the time. Anyone expecting something like Disraeli Gears or Odessey & Oracle would have been surprised by what the String Band was offering. The fusion of folk, blues, psychedelia and, certainly what we now call World Music, gave 5000 Spirits a unique sound that has guaranteed a place in music history. Warner. 2003.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars If you let the pigs decide it, they will put you in the sty.......2006-09-10

This album sits at no. 2 in my list of the greatest albums ever made. It really is that good!I have been listening to this album regularly for nearly 40 years, ever since it came out, and have never tired of it. It has stood the test of time better than many better selling contemporaries for sure. There is no other album that I can say that about. I never tire of the stunning acoustic guitar work, or trying to fathom the meanings of the lyrics.Even the name of the album is brilliantly chosen. The 5000 sprirts, well yes it is very spiritual as is all good music, and looks at things from different spiritual perspectives. The Layers of the Onion, yes, it is a bit like pass the parcel. When you think you understand something, you find there is a whole new layer of meaning underneath, and even after 39 years I can't claimto have got to the bottom of it.OK some of the songs are easy. The whimsical ones, like Little Cloud and the Hedgehog Song, and obvious ones like Painting box and The first Girl I loved. But do you fully understand the Eyes of Fate or even Chinese White? I love The Mad Hatters Song, since it is very Christian, and I am a Christian. It even mentions Jesus. The First Girl I Loved seems a very personal song, and very beautiful, but one that I and I am sure many others can relate to. And even if you don't, the guitar work is stunning. I was a young man back in the 1960s always seems to me to be the one track that doesn't fit. It is pure science fiction! Not particularly spiritual, or with any great depth, or with many "layers" but it could have been the basis of a novel. Yes it is a great album. If you don't know it buy it. But be warned, it is something you either love or hate. My wife does not like it at all, but then there are certain instruments she can't stand, and I think the oud is one (bagpipes is another, but there are not bagpipes on the 5000 spirits) My favourite of all of the ISB albums.Just in case you are wondering which is the one album I consider betterthan this , it is Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here".

4 out of 5 stars Their Most Famous, but not their best. I still love it!.......2005-05-31

`The 5000 Spirits or The Layers of the Onion' (5000 Spirits) by the new (in 1967) duo known as The Incredible String Band (TISB) is, surprisingly, not their first album. But, like the Jefferson Airplane about the same time with `Surrealistic Pillow', it is with this album that the duo of Robin Williamson and Mike Heron made an impact on the overheated world of popular music that was the mid-1960's.

The easiest way to point out the company this album was in is to cite a 1968 newspaper review of the album which compared it favorably to the very summit of pop music at that time, the Beatle's epochal `Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'. On the one hand, there is no question in my mind that this album is NOT as good as `Sergeant Pepper...'. And yet, we are still listening to both albums today.

In the 1960's, I was following avant-garde / rock music about as closely as you can imagine, without actually playing an instrument. My great ambition was to discover new groups that would succeed commercially and artistically, before that great success actually happened. The source of my belief in my ability to do this lay in my having decided, on hearing Barbara Streisand's first album, while still in high school, that this singer will go far. Lo and behold, by her third album, she was sharing stages with Ethel Merman and Judy Garland. I would go on to successfully `discover' David Bowie, James Taylor, the J. Geils Band, and Rod Stewart upon hearing their first solo albums released in the United States.

Until I heard this TISB album, based on the strong review, I had not heard much of the English folk genre except to Donovan Leitch, who was billed as the English Dylan. So, I immediately and correctly connected the style of TISB with the mystical / mythical / trippy style of Donovan. And, every time I encountered a contemporary British folk act, I was anticipating something sounding like TISB. In retrospect, I'm really happy that groups such as Fairport Convention and The Pentangle did not sound like TISB, because the thing they did was just as enjoyable in itself and better than a wan copy of some other band, although there was a fair amount of mutual influence being passed around among these bands and from Mr. Dylan from across the pond.

Oddly enough, `5000 Spirits...' also has a lot in common with `Sergeant Pepper...', especially with songs such as `Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds' and `For the Benefit of Mr. Kite'. According to the Beatles, both songs are simply inspirations from pictures drawn by young Julian Lennon in the first case and a circus poster in the second case. Many of Heron and Williamson's songs have that same sense of being about nothing more than whimsy, especially Heron's `Painting Box', `Little Cloud', and `The Hedgehog's Song'. On the other hand, this judgment may be making them less interesting than they really are, especially as `Painting Box' is something of a love song.

This is not an album of great songs. `When I'm 64', `A Little Help From My Friends', and especially `A Day in the Life' are great songs. There is nothing like these classics on this album. Even among the whole TISB body of work, there are songs from other albums that stick in the head with more staying power than any song on this album. In fact, while it is not a GREAT song, I went to the trouble of memorizing the Gilbert and Sullivan homage, `The Minotaur's Song' from TISB's next album, `The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter'. The only song from this album which brings an `oh yes!' to my heart when I hear this album is the finisher, `Way Back in the 1960's with its parody of Bob Dylan and of 1960's oldsters reaction to the hippie counterculture of that time.

And yet, this album has great value in that if it were not for it's critical success, there may not have been all those other great TISB albums to come. Few albums can quite bring back the sense of the 1960's as this one.

5 out of 5 stars "I'm not the kind to complain..".......2004-01-31

...about this album. It's brilliant! Robin is a genius and Mike not far behind him! They are a very overrated duo of songwriters. Folk-rock never sounded so good, I swear. Bob Dylan and The Chioeftans must love them! Highlights on the album are:

"Chinese White"-surreal, love the bowed gimbri
"No Sleep Blues"-funny lyrics.Do you just to snore?
"Blues For The Muse"-the best song on the album, bluesy and great, Mike harmonica and Robin's lyrics are perfect!
"The Hedgehog's Song"-Mike, you've got quite the sense of humor. I keep imagining Sonic the hedgehog in this.
"First Girl I Loved"-their best known song, beautiful.
"Way Back In The 1960s"-great way to end the album! Love the lyrics!
You need this album, verrry bad.

5 out of 5 stars ONE OF 'THE' GROUNDBREAKING RECORDINGS OF THE 1960s.......2003-03-10

With the release of their eponymous first album, the Incredible String Band made it know to the music listening public that a new force had arrived - one which would inject some energy and vitality into the folk music scene in the UK and the world. With the appearance of this album, THE 5,000 SPIRITS or THE LAYERS OF THE ONION, there could be little doubt that something special had been born. The albums which were to follow over the next few years bore this out dramatically.

THE 5,000 SPIRITS was released originally in 1967 - at the height of the psychedelic music movement. One only has to look at the artists of the day, and their releases, to see the rapidly expanding imaginations and creativity at work, breaking new ground right and left. This album, I feel, stands head and shoulders above most other releases of its day, in many ways - it should be regarded as a classic for its lyrical content alone. Musically, the ISB were going places - and drawing from sources - that other artists would only dare to touch in years to come. I believe it was their long-time producer, Joe Boyd, who once said that the ISB was the original `world music' group - he couldn't have stated it better.

After the critical acclaim garnered by their first album, the trio (at the time composed of Robin Williamson, Mike Heron and Clive Palmer) split up and traveled separately. The music Robin and Mike heard (for the band had become a duo by the time this album was recorded) around the world touched their souls - they breathed it in and gave it back to there listeners, combining both vocal and instrumental styles and techniques that would most like never have met if not for their artistic explorations. Mike had begun playing the sitar, and Robin's singing clearly bears the influence of the voices he encountered in the Middle East and Asia. The two writers' heads were already bursting with poetry and ideas born in their native lands - myths from Europe and Asia mingled with other images, creating a heady concoction perfectly suited to the times. Listeners were eager to hear something new - something besides the standard pop fare of the day, love songs with `moon/June/spoon' rhymes. The ISB gave it to them in abundance.

The album is pretty evenly balanced between the two writers - an equity which would be present in most of their subsequent releases as well. Licorice McKechnie makes her first appearance with Robin and Mike on this recording - and they are assisted by Danny Thompson on bass here and there. The songs deal with a variety of subjects - even the aforementioned love songs are present, but in the ISB's own unique style.

The set opens with Mike's `Chinese white' - the bowed gimbri played by Robin on this track lets the listener know right away that things have `expanded' a bit since the band's 1966 release. `The bent twig of darkness grows the petals of the morning', sings Mike - a beautiful image worthy of traditional Asian poetry. Mike's other songs on this album run the gamut from love songs (`Painting box' and the eternally lovely `Gently tender') to humorous looks at our place in the world (`Little cloud' and `The hedgehog's song') to a song offering encouragement to the listener to reach for his full potential (`You know what you could be'). The seriousness of some of his topics is gently offset by a childlike quality that, through the ensuing years, would infuse most of his writing with an innocence that would endear it to his fans.

Robin's offerings here are for the most part more serious than Mike's - but there is humor in his writing as well, as is evidenced by `No sleep blues' and the hilarious `Way back in the 1960s'. His `First girl I loved' - covered by Judy Collins as `First boy I loved' on her WILDFLOWERS album - is simply one of the most beautiful songs ever written to a first love, looking back with honesty and tenderness on the gifts exchanged, both physical and emotional. His guitar work on this song - and, actually, throughout his career - is astonishingly creative and lovely. In 'The eyes of fate', he muses `O who can see in the eyes of Fate all life alone in its chronic pattern?' - his lyrics are, throughout this album and all to follow, insightful, probing, spiritual. He is one of the most amazingly talented writers ever to pen a verse.

There are a couple of places in the recording where the signal is over-driven - but that's to be expected, given the era from which this dates. The remastering has been done lovingly - the sound on the cd is as good or better than any edition of the lp I ever owned.

Anyone with any sort of appreciation for the musics of different parts of the world, of exploring the myths with which mankind has explained the unexplainable, who has ever asked the really deeply rooted, `half-remarkable' questions, will find in the music and lyrics of the Incredible String Band the voices of kindred spirits of the closest order. This album - and, indeed, everything they released up until about 1970 (and they produced a lot of music in that short span) - is as beautiful and relevant today as when it first appeared. Moreover, there are still those who will never `catch up' to them.

The band continued to experiment and expand into the follow-up album, THE HANGMAN'S BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER, issued the following year...

5 out of 5 stars Groundbreaking Album From Incredible String Band.......2001-12-11

In 1966 the Incredible String Band completed their first album simply titled "The Incredible String Band." Upon the completion of the album, the band made a curious career move...they retired. The principal members felt that they had reached their pinnacle of acheivement and decided to get out of the music business. Banjoist Clive Plamer headed for Afganistan, while multi-instumentalist Robin Williamson travelled to Morocco to learn to play Moroccan flute. Only Mike Heron remained in Edinburg Scotland, (the group's home) where he gigged with the rock band Rock Bottom and the Dead Beats. Robin stayed in Morrocco about six months and returned to Scotland with dozens of exotic musical insturments. Together Robin and Mike reformed the Incredible String Band with Robin's girlfriend Licorice "Likkie" McKenzie. The new Incredible String Band recorded "5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion", which was released in 1967, the year of Sgt. Pepper's and the Summer of Love. This album with it's strange musical alchemy, surreal lyrics, and gentle whimsy placed the String Band in the vangaurd of the burgeoning psychedelic movement in Europe and the USA. The ISB counted amoung it's fans Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Led Zepplin and Steve Winwood. The album is a ground breaking soundtrack of psycedelica's Age of Innocence and charted the course for the development of the String Band until 1972, when the group's increasing involvement in the Scientology movement caused a creative implosion.

The first thing you notice about "5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion" is it's arresting mystical day-glow cover art by Simon Marijke. Marijke was the painter of the fabled psychedelic Rolls Royce owned by John Lennon. The cover art broke with traditional notions what kind of art should grace the cover of an album. If you saw this album in a record store bin in 1967, you would indeed know that "something's happening here."

The talented Mike Heron and Robin Williamson played about 40 different musical insturments between them. Exotic intruments like the sitar, hand drums, gimbri and the jew's harp were featured on "5000 Spirits", giving the music the feel of a cosmic global stew. The surrealistic lyrics inspired by eastern mysticism, American blues, celtic lore, and pagan mytholology transported the listener to a paralell reality akin to Tolkien's Middle Earth. With "5000 Spirits" two powerful voices with distinct visions emerged as one: Mike Heron's gentle pantheism rooted in folk traditions and Robin Williamson's cosmic and often elegalic mysticism blended the Celtic bardist tradition.

Some of Mike's most memorable songwritting is on "5000 Spirits. On "Painting Box" Mike's gentle voice blends with Likkie's waifish harmony to produce a delicate impressionistic gem about love and the beauty of imagination. Mike's worship of nature is apparent in "Little Cloud", where a passing cloud beckons him to float to distant lands. Many of ISB's chemically fuelled devotees interpreted "Little Cloud" as invitation to pass through doors of perception via a certain substance often licked from blotter sheets in the sixties. Robin Williamson's "First Girl I Loved" is a melancholy reflection on "a grown-up female stranger" who at age 17 was his first love. Robin's plantive voice rises from his intimate Galeic conversational tone to a mornful atonal Arabic wail as he recounts thinking of his first love in the "six sad morning and in the lonely midnight." The song is the most requested and most recorded in Williamson's considerable body of work. When Judy Collins heard the ISB perform "First Girl I Loved" on tour together, she changed the gender to "First Boy" and it is a favorite of her fans. Jackson Browne recorded it on "Rubaiyat" which was a Elektra tribute to the Striggers. Robin's other masterpiece was "My Name Is Death" an existential bow to the inevitabilty of death, "the question that cannot be answered."

"Five Thousand Spirits or the Layer of the Onion" is a flat-out Sixties classic and the first milestone the long pilgrimage of the Incredible Sting Band. It is a pilgrimage that appears to never end... Robin Williamson made the 2001 best of [...]music critics list for his stunning C.D., "The Seed-At-Zero." Mike Heron and Robin Williamson recently reformed the Incredible String Band and are touring the U.K. in October, November and December of 2001. Likkie McKenzie the third Sting Band member on this album moved to California in the 1970s where she worked as a waitress and coat checker. About 10 years ago, Likkie, in the cosmic String Band fashion, set out on a journey across the desert in Arizona, and was never seen or heard from again.
The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
Average customer rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars
  • If you let the pigs decide it, they will put you in the sty
  • Their Most Famous, but not their best. I still love it!
  • "I'm not the kind to complain.."
  • ONE OF 'THE' GROUNDBREAKING RECORDINGS OF THE 1960s
  • Groundbreaking Album From Incredible String Band
 The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
The Incredible String Band
Manufacturer: Hannibal
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B00000064I
Release Date: 1994-05-16

Tracks:

  1. Chinese White
  2. No Sleep Blues
  3. Painting Box
  4. The Mad Hatter's Song
  5. Little Cloud
  6. The Eyes Of Fate
  7. Blues For The Muse
  8. The Hedgehog's Song
  9. First Girl I Loved
  10. You Know What You Could Be
  11. My Name Is Death
  12. Gently Tender
  13. Way Back In The 1960's

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Stone psychedelic freaks Robin Williamson and Mike Heron were two talented multi-instrumentalists who were eventually joined in the Incredible String Band by their earth-goddess lovers, Licorice and Rose. They tapped into the British Isles' centuries-old traditions of myths and folklore, updating the ancient sounds with inspired, multi-layered recordings and a modern twist that helped you envision fair maidens riding unicorns through green and fertile fields while simultaneously advocating better living through chemistry. Hell, the title alone of this, their second album, is more psychedelic than anything the Jefferson Airplane ever did. --Jim Derogatis

Album Description

Inside, 5000 Spirits is full of whimsical delights. It was produced by Robin Williamson and Mike Heron once they had returned from travels. Robin himself had managed to pick up a variety of different instruments in Morocco and they all seem to get in there somewhere. Clive Palmer who had started the String Band with Robin had gone off to Afghanistan and did not rejoin the others. 5000 Spirits was quite unlike anything else that was around at the time. Anyone expecting something like Disraeli Gears or Odessey & Oracle would have been surprised by what the String Band was offering. The fusion of folk, blues, psychedelia and, certainly what we now call World Music, gave 5000 Spirits a unique sound that has guaranteed a place in music history. Warner. 2003.

Customer Reviews:

5 out of 5 stars If you let the pigs decide it, they will put you in the sty.......2006-09-10

This album sits at no. 2 in my list of the greatest albums ever made. It really is that good!I have been listening to this album regularly for nearly 40 years, ever since it came out, and have never tired of it. It has stood the test of time better than many better selling contemporaries for sure. There is no other album that I can say that about. I never tire of the stunning acoustic guitar work, or trying to fathom the meanings of the lyrics.Even the name of the album is brilliantly chosen. The 5000 sprirts, well yes it is very spiritual as is all good music, and looks at things from different spiritual perspectives. The Layers of the Onion, yes, it is a bit like pass the parcel. When you think you understand something, you find there is a whole new layer of meaning underneath, and even after 39 years I can't claimto have got to the bottom of it.OK some of the songs are easy. The whimsical ones, like Little Cloud and the Hedgehog Song, and obvious ones like Painting box and The first Girl I loved. But do you fully understand the Eyes of Fate or even Chinese White? I love The Mad Hatters Song, since it is very Christian, and I am a Christian. It even mentions Jesus. The First Girl I Loved seems a very personal song, and very beautiful, but one that I and I am sure many others can relate to. And even if you don't, the guitar work is stunning. I was a young man back in the 1960s always seems to me to be the one track that doesn't fit. It is pure science fiction! Not particularly spiritual, or with any great depth, or with many "layers" but it could have been the basis of a novel. Yes it is a great album. If you don't know it buy it. But be warned, it is something you either love or hate. My wife does not like it at all, but then there are certain instruments she can't stand, and I think the oud is one (bagpipes is another, but there are not bagpipes on the 5000 spirits) My favourite of all of the ISB albums.Just in case you are wondering which is the one album I consider betterthan this , it is Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here".

4 out of 5 stars Their Most Famous, but not their best. I still love it!.......2005-05-31

`The 5000 Spirits or The Layers of the Onion' (5000 Spirits) by the new (in 1967) duo known as The Incredible String Band (TISB) is, surprisingly, not their first album. But, like the Jefferson Airplane about the same time with `Surrealistic Pillow', it is with this album that the duo of Robin Williamson and Mike Heron made an impact on the overheated world of popular music that was the mid-1960's.

The easiest way to point out the company this album was in is to cite a 1968 newspaper review of the album which compared it favorably to the very summit of pop music at that time, the Beatle's epochal `Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'. On the one hand, there is no question in my mind that this album is NOT as good as `Sergeant Pepper...'. And yet, we are still listening to both albums today.

In the 1960's, I was following avant-garde / rock music about as closely as you can imagine, without actually playing an instrument. My great ambition was to discover new groups that would succeed commercially and artistically, before that great success actually happened. The source of my belief in my ability to do this lay in my having decided, on hearing Barbara Streisand's first album, while still in high school, that this singer will go far. Lo and behold, by her third album, she was sharing stages with Ethel Merman and Judy Garland. I would go on to successfully `discover' David Bowie, James Taylor, the J. Geils Band, and Rod Stewart upon hearing their first solo albums released in the United States.

Until I heard this TISB album, based on the strong review, I had not heard much of the English folk genre except to Donovan Leitch, who was billed as the English Dylan. So, I immediately and correctly connected the style of TISB with the mystical / mythical / trippy style of Donovan. And, every time I encountered a contemporary British folk act, I was anticipating something sounding like TISB. In retrospect, I'm really happy that groups such as Fairport Convention and The Pentangle did not sound like TISB, because the thing they did was just as enjoyable in itself and better than a wan copy of some other band, although there was a fair amount of mutual influence being passed around among these bands and from Mr. Dylan from across the pond.

Oddly enough, `5000 Spirits...' also has a lot in common with `Sergeant Pepper...', especially with songs such as `Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds' and `For the Benefit of Mr. Kite'. According to the Beatles, both songs are simply inspirations from pictures drawn by young Julian Lennon in the first case and a circus poster in the second case. Many of Heron and Williamson's songs have that same sense of being about nothing more than whimsy, especially Heron's `Painting Box', `Little Cloud', and `The Hedgehog's Song'. On the other hand, this judgment may be making them less interesting than they really are, especially as `Painting Box' is something of a love song.

This is not an album of great songs. `When I'm 64', `A Little Help From My Friends', and especially `A Day in the Life' are great songs. There is nothing like these classics on this album. Even among the whole TISB body of work, there are songs from other albums that stick in the head with more staying power than any song on this album. In fact, while it is not a GREAT song, I went to the trouble of memorizing the Gilbert and Sullivan homage, `The Minotaur's Song' from TISB's next album, `The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter'. The only song from this album which brings an `oh yes!' to my heart when I hear this album is the finisher, `Way Back in the 1960's with its parody of Bob Dylan and of 1960's oldsters reaction to the hippie counterculture of that time.

And yet, this album has great value in that if it were not for it's critical success, there may not have been all those other great TISB albums to come. Few albums can quite bring back the sense of the 1960's as this one.

5 out of 5 stars "I'm not the kind to complain..".......2004-01-31

...about this album. It's brilliant! Robin is a genius and Mike not far behind him! They are a very overrated duo of songwriters. Folk-rock never sounded so good, I swear. Bob Dylan and The Chioeftans must love them! Highlights on the album are:

"Chinese White"-surreal, love the bowed gimbri
"No Sleep Blues"-funny lyrics.Do you just to snore?
"Blues For The Muse"-the best song on the album, bluesy and great, Mike harmonica and Robin's lyrics are perfect!
"The Hedgehog's Song"-Mike, you've got quite the sense of humor. I keep imagining Sonic the hedgehog in this.
"First Girl I Loved"-their best known song, beautiful.
"Way Back In The 1960s"-great way to end the album! Love the lyrics!
You need this album, verrry bad.

5 out of 5 stars ONE OF 'THE' GROUNDBREAKING RECORDINGS OF THE 1960s.......2003-03-10

With the release of their eponymous first album, the Incredible String Band made it know to the music listening public that a new force had arrived - one which would inject some energy and vitality into the folk music scene in the UK and the world. With the appearance of this album, THE 5,000 SPIRITS or THE LAYERS OF THE ONION, there could be little doubt that something special had been born. The albums which were to follow over the next few years bore this out dramatically.

THE 5,000 SPIRITS was released originally in 1967 - at the height of the psychedelic music movement. One only has to look at the artists of the day, and their releases, to see the rapidly expanding imaginations and creativity at work, breaking new ground right and left. This album, I feel, stands head and shoulders above most other releases of its day, in many ways - it should be regarded as a classic for its lyrical content alone. Musically, the ISB were going places - and drawing from sources - that other artists would only dare to touch in years to come. I believe it was their long-time producer, Joe Boyd, who once said that the ISB was the original `world music' group - he couldn't have stated it better.

After the critical acclaim garnered by their first album, the trio (at the time composed of Robin Williamson, Mike Heron and Clive Palmer) split up and traveled separately. The music Robin and Mike heard (for the band had become a duo by the time this album was recorded) around the world touched their souls - they breathed it in and gave it back to there listeners, combining both vocal and instrumental styles and techniques that would most like never have met if not for their artistic explorations. Mike had begun playing the sitar, and Robin's singing clearly bears the influence of the voices he encountered in the Middle East and Asia. The two writers' heads were already bursting with poetry and ideas born in their native lands - myths from Europe and Asia mingled with other images, creating a heady concoction perfectly suited to the times. Listeners were eager to hear something new - something besides the standard pop fare of the day, love songs with `moon/June/spoon' rhymes. The ISB gave it to them in abundance.

The album is pretty evenly balanced between the two writers - an equity which would be present in most of their subsequent releases as well. Licorice McKechnie makes her first appearance with Robin and Mike on this recording - and they are assisted by Danny Thompson on bass here and there. The songs deal with a variety of subjects - even the aforementioned love songs are present, but in the ISB's own unique style.

The set opens with Mike's `Chinese white' - the bowed gimbri played by Robin on this track lets the listener know right away that things have `expanded' a bit since the band's 1966 release. `The bent twig of darkness grows the petals of the morning', sings Mike - a beautiful image worthy of traditional Asian poetry. Mike's other songs on this album run the gamut from love songs (`Painting box' and the eternally lovely `Gently tender') to humorous looks at our place in the world (`Little cloud' and `The hedgehog's song') to a song offering encouragement to the listener to reach for his full potential (`You know what you could be'). The seriousness of some of his topics is gently offset by a childlike quality that, through the ensuing years, would infuse most of his writing with an innocence that would endear it to his fans.

Robin's offerings here are for the most part more serious than Mike's - but there is humor in his writing as well, as is evidenced by `No sleep blues' and the hilarious `Way back in the 1960s'. His `First girl I loved' - covered by Judy Collins as `First boy I loved' on her WILDFLOWERS album - is simply one of the most beautiful songs ever written to a first love, looking back with honesty and tenderness on the gifts exchanged, both physical and emotional. His guitar work on this song - and, actually, throughout his career - is astonishingly creative and lovely. In 'The eyes of fate', he muses `O who can see in the eyes of Fate all life alone in its chronic pattern?' - his lyrics are, throughout this album and all to follow, insightful, probing, spiritual. He is one of the most amazingly talented writers ever to pen a verse.

There are a couple of places in the recording where the signal is over-driven - but that's to be expected, given the era from which this dates. The remastering has been done lovingly - the sound on the cd is as good or better than any edition of the lp I ever owned.

Anyone with any sort of appreciation for the musics of different parts of the world, of exploring the myths with which mankind has explained the unexplainable, who has ever asked the really deeply rooted, `half-remarkable' questions, will find in the music and lyrics of the Incredible String Band the voices of kindred spirits of the closest order. This album - and, indeed, everything they released up until about 1970 (and they produced a lot of music in that short span) - is as beautiful and relevant today as when it first appeared. Moreover, there are still those who will never `catch up' to them.

The band continued to experiment and expand into the follow-up album, THE HANGMAN'S BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTER, issued the following year...

5 out of 5 stars Groundbreaking Album From Incredible String Band.......2001-12-11

In 1966 the Incredible String Band completed their first album simply titled "The Incredible String Band." Upon the completion of the album, the band made a curious career move...they retired. The principal members felt that they had reached their pinnacle of acheivement and decided to get out of the music business. Banjoist Clive Plamer headed for Afganistan, while multi-instumentalist Robin Williamson travelled to Morocco to learn to play Moroccan flute. Only Mike Heron remained in Edinburg Scotland, (the group's home) where he gigged with the rock band Rock Bottom and the Dead Beats. Robin stayed in Morrocco about six months and returned to Scotland with dozens of exotic musical insturments. Together Robin and Mike reformed the Incredible String Band with Robin's girlfriend Licorice "Likkie" McKenzie. The new Incredible String Band recorded "5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion", which was released in 1967, the year of Sgt. Pepper's and the Summer of Love. This album with it's strange musical alchemy, surreal lyrics, and gentle whimsy placed the String Band in the vangaurd of the burgeoning psychedelic movement in Europe and the USA. The ISB counted amoung it's fans Bob Dylan, John Lennon, Led Zepplin and Steve Winwood. The album is a ground breaking soundtrack of psycedelica's Age of Innocence and charted the course for the development of the String Band until 1972, when the group's increasing involvement in the Scientology movement caused a creative implosion.

The first thing you notice about "5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion" is it's arresting mystical day-glow cover art by Simon Marijke. Marijke was the painter of the fabled psychedelic Rolls Royce owned by John Lennon. The cover art broke with traditional notions what kind of art should grace the cover of an album. If you saw this album in a record store bin in 1967, you would indeed know that "something's happening here."

The talented Mike Heron and Robin Williamson played about 40 different musical insturments between them. Exotic intruments like the sitar, hand drums, gimbri and the jew's harp were featured on "5000 Spirits", giving the music the feel of a cosmic global stew. The surrealistic lyrics inspired by eastern mysticism, American blues, celtic lore, and pagan mytholology transported the listener to a paralell reality akin to Tolkien's Middle Earth. With "5000 Spirits" two powerful voices with distinct visions emerged as one: Mike Heron's gentle pantheism rooted in folk traditions and Robin Williamson's cosmic and often elegalic mysticism blended the Celtic bardist tradition.

Some of Mike's most memorable songwritting is on "5000 Spirits. On "Painting Box" Mike's gentle voice blends with Likkie's waifish harmony to produce a delicate impressionistic gem about love and the beauty of imagination. Mike's worship of nature is apparent in "Little Cloud", where a passing cloud beckons him to float to distant lands. Many of ISB's chemically fuelled devotees interpreted "Little Cloud" as invitation to pass through doors of perception via a certain substance often licked from blotter sheets in the sixties. Robin Williamson's "First Girl I Loved" is a melancholy reflection on "a grown-up female stranger" who at age 17 was his first love. Robin's plantive voice rises from his intimate Galeic conversational tone to a mornful atonal Arabic wail as he recounts thinking of his first love in the "six sad morning and in the lonely midnight." The song is the most requested and most recorded in Williamson's considerable body of work. When Judy Collins heard the ISB perform "First Girl I Loved" on tour together, she changed the gender to "First Boy" and it is a favorite of her fans. Jackson Browne recorded it on "Rubaiyat" which was a Elektra tribute to the Striggers. Robin's other masterpiece was "My Name Is Death" an existential bow to the inevitabilty of death, "the question that cannot be answered."

"Five Thousand Spirits or the Layer of the Onion" is a flat-out Sixties classic and the first milestone the long pilgrimage of the Incredible Sting Band. It is a pilgrimage that appears to never end... Robin Williamson made the 2001 best of [...]music critics list for his stunning C.D., "The Seed-At-Zero." Mike Heron and Robin Williamson recently reformed the Incredible String Band and are touring the U.K. in October, November and December of 2001. Likkie McKenzie the third Sting Band member on this album moved to California in the 1970s where she worked as a waitress and coat checker. About 10 years ago, Likkie, in the cosmic String Band fashion, set out on a journey across the desert in Arizona, and was never seen or heard from again.
Incredible String Band/5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
Average customer rating: 1 out of 5 stars
  • AVOID, AVOID, AVOID!!!
  • All time classic album ruined
  • Inaudible String Band
 Incredible String Band/5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion
The Incredible String Band
Manufacturer: Wea International
ProductGroup: Music
Binding: Audio CD

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ASIN: B0002DXR7S
Release Date: 2004-08-23

Tracks:

  1. Maybe Someday
  2. October Song
  3. When the Music Starts to Play
  4. Schaeffer's Jig
  5. Womankind
  6. Tree
  7. Whistle Tune
  8. Dandelion Blues
  9. How Happy I Am
  10. Empty Pocket Blues
  11. Smoke Shovelling Song
  12. Can't Keep Me Here
  13. Good as Gone
  14. Footsteps of the Heron
  15. Niggertown
  16. Everything's Fine Now

Tracks:

  1. Chinese White
  2. No Sleep Blues
  3. Painting Box
  4. Mad Hatter's Song
  5. Little Cloud
  6. Eyes of Fate
  7. Blues for the Muse
  8. Hedgehog's Song
  9. First Girl I Loved
  10. You Know What I Could Be
  11. My Name Is Death
  12. Gently Tender
  13. Way Back in the 1960's

Album Details

Digitally Remastered Edition of Two Classic LPs Combined in a Deluxe Double CD Package. The Debut Release from the Original Incredible String Band Trio - Robin Williamson, Clive Palmer and Mike Heron was also their Most Simple. This Minimalism Allowed the Natural Radiance of the Band's (Mostly) Original Material to Be Evident in the Purist Sense and Likewise Without Many of the Somewhat Intricate Distractions and Musical Tangents that their Future Work Would Incorporate. Immediately Striking is the Group's Remarkable and Collective Prowess on all Things Stringed - Hence, their Apropos Moniker. With an Unmistakable Blend of Distinct Instrumentation and Harmony Vocals, They Take Inspiration from Traditional Music on Both Sides of the Atlantic. Their Second Album Featured What is Probably Williamson's Best-known Song, "First Girl I Loved" (Also Familiar Via Judy Collins' Cover Version, "First Boy I Loved"). This Deluxe Package Includes New Liner Notes, Rarely Seen Photos and Contemporary Ephemera.

Customer Reviews:

1 out of 5 stars AVOID, AVOID, AVOID!!!.......2007-01-20

As the previous two reviewers said, this remastered version is utter garbage; Dan Hersch of Digiprep (credited with remastering) has destroyed the second half of "The 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion". (It's possible, I suppose, that someone else was responsible for the screw-up.)

The first CD ("The Incredible String Band") is fine, and the first few tracks of "The 5000 Spirits..." sound decent. But starting with track 7 ("Blues for the Muse"), the channels are all out of sync and the music is ruined.

By all means buy this music - it's great stuff. But avoid this particular edition like the plague.

1 out of 5 stars All time classic album ruined.......2007-01-16

DO NOT BY THIS! My disappointment with this cd package is profound. I previously owned a single CD copy of "5000 spirits", which I unfortunately left on a train, so here was trying to replace it and pick up an extra disc (the self-titled "incredible string band") as a bonus. Unfortunately, although "5000 spirits" is a fantastic album, something has gone terribly wrong with the remastering (re-wrangling?) here. The tracks are smothered in this horrible, unrelenting delay effect, which was not on my previous, unremasterd, copy - if it is intentional then those responsible have no taste, if unintentional then the channels have been sloppily mixed. All copies of this should be withdrawn from sale. Buy "5000 spirits", it is the Incredible String Band's most whimsical, most inventive. But AVOID this so-called remastered version.

1 out of 5 stars Inaudible String Band.......2005-10-28

The Incredible String Band are incredible, this "remastered" recording is not.
The 1st, self titled disc sounds great, as good as any version of this album available, but disc two, 5000 Spirits or the Layers of the Onion, is unlistenable.
The problem is that it is done wrong, the channels are out of sync with each other. This creates an echo, the harmonies, and simple beauty of the music are lost in fuzzy fogged out confusion.
Buy any other version,(this is 5 star music that deserved better quality control at the label, beautiful, fun, music that deserves to be heard as it was originally produced and recorded), not this one until it gets to the attention of the label that they have put out a botched product.

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